Wednesday, January 28, 2009

Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution

Conservative News and Reporting
"News for the Rest of Us"
Michele Chang

NOTE: This article is, in fact, a satire piece. While you're here, read other articles, like Obama going on the quarter, how he's genetically superior, and how he took down Blago. And you can also check out Joe's Babe of the Week, which comes out every Friday. And become a fan and return and tell your friends. Word up.

For those who like this satire, buy my book, The Real History of World War II.

NOTE: This article did not appear in, or was sanctioned in any way by the National Law Journal.

Secretary of Defense Robert Gates is extremely frustrated with orders that the White House is contemplating. According to sources at the Pentagon, including all branches of the armed forces, the Obama Administration may break with a centuries-old tradition.

A spokesman for General James Cartwright, the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, states that the Obama Administration wants to have soldiers and officers pledge a loyalty oath directly to the office of the President, and no longer to the Constitution.

"The oath to the Constitution is as old as the document itself." the spokesman said, "At no time in American history, not even in the Civil War, did the oath change or the subject of the oath differ. It has always been to the Constitution."

The back-and-forth between the White House and the Defense Department was expected as President George W. Bush left office. President Obama has already signed orders to close Guantanamo and to pull combat troops from Iraq. But, this, say many at the Defense Department, goes too far.

"Technically, we can't talk about it before it becomes official policy." the spokesman continued. "However, the Defense Department, including the Secretary, will not take this laying down. Expect a fight from the bureaucracy and the brass."

Sources at the White House had a different point of view. In a circular distributed by White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, the rationale for the change was made more clear.

"The President feels that the military has been too indoctrinated by the old harbingers of hate: nationalism, racism, and classism. By removing an oath to the American society, the soldiers are less likely to commit atrocities like those at Abu Ghraib."

"We expect a lot of flak over this," the classified memo continues. "But those that would be most against it are those looking either for attention or control."

The time frame for the changes are unknown. However, it is more likely that the changes will be made around the July 4th holiday, in order to dampen any potential backlash. The difference in the oath will actually only be slight. The main differences will be the new phrasing. It is expected that the oath to the Constitution will be entirely phased out within two years.

195 comments:

Doc Farmer said...

Do you have any corroboration? So far my google searches aren't showing anything.

Anonymous said...

War Dog Ron, Mr. Obama will continue his treasonous acts toward the American Constitution, his oath was wrong the 1 st time, second 1 was without a bible and you want me to Pledge an oath to Obama, I'm not musslim!!!! wake up America !!!!*******

Anonymous said...

Please give some kind of source or proof of this information. It's hard to believe with no other evidence than this one blog...

Anonymous said...

Same here. You need some more proof for this claim. It's interesting but nothing to get all worked up about without more sources.

Rick Donaldson said...

Hiya... I'm looking for some evidence for this. So far, none. So... give us something to work with here.

Rick Donaldson
http://www.transasianaxis.com

R.U. Wright said...

Nobama has already made it clear what he thinks about ourConstitution. The man cares nothing about our Country only about power and his Socialist agenda. If he succeeds, America will fail.

saveyourcountry.org

Anonymous said...

I would post this on Red Pills (redpills.org) and spread the word but not without a collaborating or national source. Please provide.
Thank you.
Gary Shumway

Anonymous said...

Notice that the blog has lables or "tags"?

Notice that the last one is "SATIRE"?

Anonymous said...

Hitler also had the German military say an oath to him. Over 200 years the oath is the the Constitution and not to the president. He is really overstepping his bounds.almor

Anonymous said...

I saw a special about Operation Valkyrie a few weeks ago. It seems that a certain dictator named "Hitler" did the same thing. My guess is that this particular post is just trying to get a rise out of us. My two cents.

Anonymous said...

Yeeeaaaahhhhh B*LLSH!T!!!!!

If that happens I'll not have as mutch fun...

Anonymous said...

Michele,

Did you put the satire tag on this...or did someone else do it?

Thanks.

obamaconspiracy.org said...

Unnamed spokesperson, quotes from classified documents. Gimme a break.

Satire or not, Dr. Orly bought it, hook line and sinker. http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/01/usurper-obama-wants-military-to-pledge.html

Anonymous said...

LINKS AT CNN!

http://search.cnn.com/search?query=Secretary%20of%20Defense%20Robert%20Gates%20military%20oath&type=web&sortBy=date&intl=false

Anonymous said...

Thanks for almost giving me a heart attack. I hope this is satire. The scary thing is with Obama Hussein, anything and everything is possible, so it's all believable.

Anonymous said...

Let's wait to see what Michele says about whether or not she put the satire tag on her article. I'll try to see if I can add a miscellaneous tag or two right now. If so, it is just an experiment. After all, the instructions for leaving a comment say that you use some tags!

...I just tried but was rejected because I don't know how to close a tag...in any case, it shows that it can be done by someone other than the author.

Anonymous said...

Free speech comes with responsibility. If this posting was truly satire, without a clear context of satire, it is like yelling fire in a crowded building.

These are frightening times, where truth is hard to discern.

It is malicious what this author has "ignited" today for the sake of fun.

Michael A said...

Um... it says satire clearly at the bottom. Everyone needs to calm down. Then again...

Mr. Conservative said...

This would be expected of President Obama. This would be a major step to increase success in revoking the Second Amendment.

Please direct us to another reference on this. As soon as I have a reference, Mr. Conservative will run with this.

Mr. Conservative
2008 Americans for Prosperity Blogger of the year
http://blogs.lubbockonline.com/conservative/

Winghunter said...

Hey! No ONE knows the Comrade in Chiefs Communist background better then I do BUT, your story reached me as the truth and since I've seen it for myself I can understand why.

DON'T YOU EVER DO THIS SHIT AGAIN!

Anonymous said...

NOT just soldiers - but children also making pledge to Obama.

I urge you to read this :

http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=45498

Anonymous said...

what do you people expect out of a communist idiot.

vrajavala said...

this story is a HOAX

Anonymous said...

This is nonsense,and of course it doesnt really matter who the Military pledge to.....
What matters is who their bosses pledge to...and as you know every administration,democrat or republican PLEDGE AN OATH TO $ATAN & I$RAEL

almodesto said...

It's amazing how quickly most people react without scrutiny. Actually what difference would it make, the sheeple (cons, libs and everyone caught in the middle) will allow anything to happen. You don't have to look any further back than George W...amazing.

Anonymous said...

SATIRE!!!

Michele Chang said...

I will not comment on the veracity of the article but it was NOT cleared for publication.

Take down this article immediately!

Anonymous said...

All persons, upon entering Military Service and upon reenlistment, are required to take the Oath of Enlistment. At one time, the Oath of Enlistment was the same for all services. Due to changes in both society and the differing Military Branches, the Oath has undergone marked change and has been specifically tailored to each branch of the Military and their specific function. Here are the latest versions of the Oath of Enlistment as recently released by the Joint Chiefs of Staff:




From Fuzzilicious Thinking:



NEW ENLISTMENT OATHS
US AIR FORCE OATH OF ENLISTMENT


"I, (State your name), swear to sign away 4 years of my life to the UNITED STATES AIR FORCE because I know I couldn't hack it in the Army, because the Marines frighten me, and because I am afraid of water over waist-deep. I swear to sit behind a desk. I also swear not to do any form of real exercise, but promise to defend our bike-riding test as a valid form of exercise. I promise to walk around calling everyone by their first name because I find it amusing to annoy the other services. I will have a better quality of life than those around me and will, at all times, be sure to make them aware of that fact. After completion of "Basic Training", I will be a lean, mean, donut-eating, Lazy-Boy sitting, civilian-wearing-blue-clothes, Chair-borne Ranger. I will believe I am superior to all others and will make an effort to clean the knife before stabbing the next person in the back. I will annoy those around me, and will go home early every day. So Help Me God!"
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Signature
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US ARMY OATH OF ENLISTMENT

"I, (State your name), swear to sign away 4 years of my otherwise mediocre life to the UNITED STATES ARMY because I couldn't score high enough on the ASVAB to get into the Air Force, I'm not tough enough for the Marines, and the Navy won't take me because I can't swim. I will wear camouflage every day and tuck my trousers into my boots because I can't figure out how to use blousing straps. I promise to wear my uniform 24 hours a day even when I have a date. I will continue to tell myself that I am a fierce killing machine because my Drill Sergeant told me I am, despite the fact that the only action I will see is a court-martial for sexual harassment. I acknowledge the fact that I will make E-8 in my first year of service, and vow to maintain that it is because I scored perfect on my PT test. After completion of my Sexual.....er.....I mean "Basic Training," I will attend a different Army school every other month and return knowing less than I did when I left. On my first trip home after Boot Camp, I will walk around like I am cool and propose to my 9th grade sweetheart. I will make my wife stay home because if I let her out she might leave me for a better-looking Air Force guy. Should she leave me twelve times, I will continue to take her back. While at work I will maintain a look of knowledge while getting absolutely nothing accomplished. I will arrive to work every day at 1000 hrs because of morning PT and leave everyday at 1300 to report back to "COMPANY." I understand that I will undergo no training whatsoever that will help me get a job upon separation, and will end up working construction with my friends from high school. I will brag to everyone about the Army giving me $30,000 for college, but will be unable to use it because I can't pass a placement exam. So Help Me God!"
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US NAVY OATH OF ENLISTMENT

"I, Top Gun, in lieu of going to prison, swear to sign away 4 years of my life to the UNITED STATES NAVY, because I want to hang out with Marines without actually having to BE one of them, because I thought the Air Force was too "corporate," because I didn't want to actually live in dirt like the Army, and because I thought, "Hey, I like to swim...why not?" I promise to wear clothes that went out of style in 1976 and to have my name stenciled on the butt of every pair of pants I own. I understand that I will be mistaken for the Good Humor Man during summer,! and for Nazi Waffen SS during the winter. I will strive to use a different language than the rest of the English-speaking world, using words like "deck, bulkhead, cover, geedunk, scuttlebutt, scuttle and head," when I really mean "floor, wall, hat, candy, water fountain, hole in wall and toilet." I will take great pride in the fact that all Navy acronyms, rank, and insignia, and everything else for that matter, are completely different from the other services and make absolutely no sense whatsoever. I will muster, whatever that is, at 0700 every morning unless I am buddy-buddy with the Chief, in which case I will show up around 0930. I vow to hone my coffee cup-handling skills to the point that I can stand up in a kayak being tossed around in a typhoon, and still not spill a drop. I consent to being promoted and subsequently busted at least twice per fiscal year. I realize that, once selected for Chief, I am required to submit myself to the sick, and quite possibly illegal, whims of my newfound "colleagues." So Help Me Neptune!"
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US MARINE CORPS OATH OF ENLISTMENT

"I, (pick a name the police won't recognize), swear..uhhhh....high-and-tight.... grunt... cammies....kill....fix bayonets....charge....slash....dig....burn.... blowup....ugh...Air Force women....beer.....sailors wives.....air strikes....yes SIR!....whiskey....liberty call....salute....Ooorah Gunny....grenades...women.... OORAH! So Help Me Chesty PULLER!"
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Greg said...

The Oath of Office for military officers is prescribed by legislative U.S. Code (Section 3331, Title 5) and as such, cannot be simply overturned by an Executive Order.

Orion said...

What does it matter? The US Military doesn't protect the constitution or the laws of the country. If it did, People like Clinton, Bush, Cheney, Congolesea Rice and the above all, Obama would be under a prison right now.

Danny Adams said...

Funny, but I remember reading this story almost verbatim when Bush took office...then again after 9/11. And another very similar story after Clinton took office.

Different day, same urban legend.

ZachJonesishome said...

Where did you find this? I wrote an article to day that you may find interesting:
Obama, Oaths of Allegiance, the UCMJ, Unlawful Orders, Joe the Private, and a Call to Protect the Republic
http://zachjonesishome.wordpress.com/2009/01/29/obama-oaths-of-allegiance-the-ucmj-unlawful-orders-joe-the-private-and-a-call-to-protect-the-republic/

If your info is correct, it is very troubling and sounding very calculated.

Have a nice evening. Zach Jones

Anonymous said...

Ein Fuhrer!! Ein Reich!!

Anonymous said...

Ever heard of an "Executive Fishing Trip" ... you throw something out there, and you see how the people react to it. If people don't pay attention, they are free to go for it ... if we raise Holy H3ll, they laugh, say it was a joke or that some "conspiracy nut" made it up to start something, and come at it from a different direction. The government uses these tactics all the time to get public reaction. They want to see just how far they can push things before they have to circle around and try from a different angle. Keep watching, cause this isn't over ...

Anonymous said...

This man is going to destroy America! People we need to wake up and recognize that the "savior" is not in the white house, just some Muslim trying to destroy one of the greatest countries on earth

Mike Franklin said...

With no citations, no outside verification, this looks like a pile of political baloney.

I'm no fan of the Messiah/President but if this is not factual, you've done a horrible disservice individual journalism (blogging) and our right to speak freely.

Anonymous said...

1ST OF ALL THIS MAN IS A FAKE(OBAMA)AND 2ND HE SURE IN HELL AINT MY PRESIDENT.HE WILL SELL AMERICA OUT FROM UNDER OUR FEET IF WE AS AMERICANS DONT STAND UP TO HIM.THERE IS GOING TO BE A BIG MARCH JULY 4TH IN WASHINGTON AGAINST OBAMA.MAY SURE U ALL COME.WE NEED TO GET RID OF THIS FOOL

winston smith said...

I believe Hitler did the same thing

Bill the wrenchbender said...

This started a hellish shitstorm over at another forum,good job, they swallowed it hook, line and sinker, much like some of the idiots here.
What a stupid bunch of mouthbreathers, no wonder your side lost

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

I have personally experienced this myself. My son was in basic training at FT Knox Kentucky and upon his graduation ceremony, the various platoons raised their hands and pledged allegiance to the president and commanding officers!! I was stunned!! They didn't play the star spangled banner, they did play other other tunes. This was last year during the month of November.

Anonymous said...

http://www.realjewnews.com/

Anonymous said...

NObama makes me sick. No pledge from me of any kind except to hope to GOD that he doesn't get every single AMERICAN killed before he gets kicked out of the White House. I have started watching a LOT more satellite television to avoid seeing him or hearing anything about him, his wife or his family.

Anonymous said...

Here is my thought. The US is going down hill fast,worse than ever. I believe we may be broke soon if not already. The country is turning away from God. Obama or the politicians are not going to help us. It will take God and prayer if he hasn't already decided to take His hand off of the United States. We have not seen anything yet. I trust in God along.

Anonymous said...

Simply repeating a rumor posted on the web, without linking to a creditable source, just makes you look silly.

But you knew that, didn't you?

Anonymous said...

Although at this point absolutely nothing would surprise me, I believe this is BS.. I am in the military and I can assure you 100% this would never fly... Not with the DOD and especially not with the vast majority of the individual soldiers... There would be a mass exodus of personnel if not an all out rebellion..

Anonymous said...

There would be revolution.

Anonymous said...

I can not believe the amount of people who are asking you post an alternative source for this information.

If it comes from the lying media or they see it on several sites then they believe anything you tell them lol.

Anonymous said...

evil genius :-)

Anonymous said...

The problem we have here is that folks are distributing this BS as "fact" and creating an alarmist reaction all over the country. I got this in an email from a well respected former Marine. It stunned me that I had to point out that there is NOTHING in mainstream media about this. If a "circular" was distributed, I'm sure the folks at the major networks would have caught wind of this and reported. They haven't. While I don't know if the blogger is genuine, even the author states here that this was NOT approved for publication and demands it be removed. Spreading this type of crap is ONLY going to be divisive and hurtful to a country that is already in a mess. Folks (many military retired) are having absolute anneurisms over this "SATIRE". Get a grip, people!

Anonymous said...

If true, this will be one of the most dangerous orders to come out of the Presidency in the last 4 administrations.

The President is already the US military's Command In Chief.

Every soldier should know they have a duty to uphold the constitution and defend it even from possible treasonous actions of or orders from any president who forgets he serves the people of the United States. The oath to the constitution I believe is currently the ONLY way a soldier can legally defy an illegal order from his/her superiors.

Add to this...the recent active deployment of military personnel inside the US, and now an oath only to the President?

Too dangerous, too easy to abuse, and too damn scary.

Anonymous said...

Obama has no regard for our flag, our country, or our constitution. He was educated a Constitutional Lawyer and a follower of the philosopher Karl Marx. He knows how to destroy our Constitution. He has called for the creation of a National Police force (a Gestapo). He has already spat upon and violated our Constitution a number of times, with the most notable being the fact that he refuses to prove his citizenship (that would make him eligible to even run for President). He created a "work-around" to appoint Hillary to her position. How many more things like this will he do?
Look up the history of Benito Mussolini. Obama's actions follow the past dictators of the world. Be afraid America. The change you wanted America is not going to be the change you may get!

Anonymous said...

While this hasn't been confirmed in U.S. "Mainstream Media", it should not be dismissed out-of-hand simply because of that status.

However, these days being on-guard against potentially malicious or faulty "reporting" is always a good idea.

However, I've personally verified a number of political actions and situations here in the U.S. that received virtually NO U.S. mainstream media reportage, but were covered by reputable foreign press agencies, and the occasional "plugged-in" blogger.

With U.S. "Mainstream Media" now consolidated into the ownership of a handful of very powerful and influential people, some with apparent political agenda of their own, it is flawed reasoning to assume "they" would always cover or will continue to cover an arbitrary future situation.

Something to consider...it's always a possibility that this was a carefully released "straw-man" to gauge current public reaction to such a change in military and political protocol.

Anonymous said...

Watch out when you hear a politician use the word "TRADITION".

You have to look carefully at the words that are used in political statements.

When they want to change something the following tactic might be used:
What used to be a codified "policy" or law becomes a "practice" and then a few months/years later what used to be a practice becomes a "tradition".

Then of course the politician inevitably says that "Old traditions must make way for new realities." And, that's how it's done, people.

The same wordsmithing has been used when politician's try to finagle their way around the Constitution in areas of free speech, second amendment, and so forth.

Over time, the protections are weakened by the simple changing of a word or two when arguments are presented.

I've actually heard a politician say something like this: "the tradition of free-speech so cherished in our Constitution must be preserved, blah blah blah" and then proceeds to say why he is introducing an unconstitutional bill to control what we can say and where we can say it.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous at January 30, 2009 9:25 AM said that Obama hasn't proven his citizenship. This is outright FALSE and it would behoove critics to rethink the perpetuation of this falsehood.

Obama was born ON AMERICAN SOIL, in the State of Hawaii. He has produced and the State of Hawaii has authenticated his Birth Certificate. His birth announcement can be found in the Honolulu papers around the date of his birth.

On the other hand, McCain was NOT born on American Soil. He became NaturalIZED when in his teens, but NaturalIZED is not the same as Natural BORN. McCain had to get his buddies in the gov't to create an EXCEPTION for him to run in the first place. Talk about treading on the Constitution!!!!

Before you folks all get into a snit about this, Panama is NOT American Soil. The State Dept. acknowledges that when we RENT land in a foreign country, it is NOT American Soil, even if a military base is set up on it.

The Constitution clearly calls for a NATURAL BORN citizen (born on U.S. Soil) as a requirement for Presidency.

McCain did NOT qualify under the Constitution.

It would be remarkable, at best, for all this conspiracy talk to cease on this issue as there is plainly no argument as to the qualification being met by Obama. The U.S. Supreme Court (Republican appointed for the most part) has even refused to hear this ridiculous argument.

Give it up already!

Anonymous said...

What does it matter? The US Military doesn't protect the constitution or the laws of the country. If it did, People like Clinton, Bush, Cheney, Congolesea Rice and the above all, Obama would be under a prison right now.

How long you been brain dead?

Anonymous said...

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Norman Mattoon Thomas ( November 20 , 1884 – December 19 , 1968) was a leading American socialist, pacifist, and six-time presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America .

The Socialist Party candidate for President of the US , Norman Thomas , said this in a 1944 speech:

" The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." He went on to say: "I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party . The Democrat Party has adopted our platform."

Anonymous said...

If this is true, doesn't it turn the US military into a giant Blackwater-ish merc organization on steroids?

Reports from New Orleans after Katrina appear to show the constitutional rights of the victims were completely ignored by the hired-guns.

Why would this be any different?

Anonymous said...

Social Security, Unemployment and Medicare are all "socialist" programs.

I suppose that means that you will REJECT your SS checks, not use Medicare, and will either decline or encourage folks who are out of work to decline unemployment benefits, right?

Oh, and if the argument is that you "paid" into these programs, deserving the income/benefits, just remember that your EMPLOYER paid for Unemployment and 1/2 or better of your retirement benefits. As a REQUIRED TAX. And so did you. To SUPPORT these "Socialist" programs.

Since you don't want your SS Check, please feel free to send it to me.

transgenic452 said...

From the videos I saw, the local sheriffs (or whatever they're called in New Orleans) and police didn't seem any better.

Anonymous said...

Posting crap like this without substantiating the source of the information is irresponsible and divisive in nature!
Reading some of the assinine comments from the left and the right... I can only shudder at the complete lack of intellectual fortitude from some of you people.
I searched all over the net and contacted military sources...NOTHING! NADA! ZIP! That's the problem with blogs like these, any idiot with a keyboard can post horse-s#@T like this and the "blinder-wearing" masses believe it. The MSM isn't going to report it even if it were fact, they are towing the Obama line.

Dean said...

Obama is a dangerous socialist but he is not stupid. Attempting to change the oath would be really stupid. I have worn the uniform of my country for 16 years (been to war 3 times) and I know nobody from Private to General who would take the Hitler oath.

SFC Dean Allen

Anonymous said...

If this is remotely true - and it wouldn't surprise me one iota if it was - it does need to have some corroborating evidence. Our 'fearless leader' is already guilty of many deceitful things, and there is more to come. I hope you all got to experience the US 'the way it was', because the country we will have four years from now (presuming it lasts that long) will not be one you are familiar with. The Great Depression is going to look like a cakewalk.

As an aside to what has happened to our rights in this country, someone i know who works for a large oil refinery reported the following: right after the inauguration, all employees were gathered for a meeting and instructed that any criticism of the president on the company premises will not be tolerated and is grounds for termination. How's that for freedom of speech?

God bless America - we sure need it!

Shedevilsister said...

I will serve my country and protect it from all enemies, foreign and domestic! Take a bullet for my country...ABSOLUETELY!! Take a bullet for the domestic enemy that is currently sitting in the oval house...don't think so!

Let us all remember...he is not "your president" for 43% of US citizens that did not vote for him. We have to tolerate his stupidity, as required by law and clean up the messes that they will make. "In God We Trust"...not someone who is trying to play God. Something like "a wolf in sheeps skin" comes to mind, ya' think?

Anonymous said...

No way this is true. Stupid shithead rumor-mongers. Are you floating a trial balloon for Obama or something?

I have a lot of suspicions about Obama but he's not brainless.

Mjolnir said...

This is infuriating. I saw this on 2 other blogs, one of which is 99.99% credible and this one seemed to slip through. Do you jokers have any clue what this rumor has done here on the net? Do you realize the impact of this? Aside from a small tag at the bottom along with a whole schlew of other tags...satire didn't exactly reach out and punch most people in the eye...if you get my drift. could you maybe make the fact this is a joke a little more plain next time?

TexasFred said...

Look, I have NO USE for Obama but this is BS if you can’t site a reputable SOURCE…

And here's MY opinion of this, NEVER post an inflammatory piece with NO citation, it's called journalistic integrity, and this is a piece that has NONE that I can find. To maintain INTEGRITY you must have reputable sources, not *rumor mill* emails...

Anonymous said...

As an employer, on his/her own private property, a person has every right in the world to expecct respect for the President and not tolerate "hate speech" against him.

He/She is not infringing on Freedom of Speech if he/she has certain standards of conduct that will are not acceptable in his company or on his property. If someone wants to go against this, being forewarned, they deserve the consequences of termination.

And, if someone wants to Speak Freely, they can do it on someone ELSE'S property while representing someone ELSE'S company.

Freedom of Speech doesn't mean you can yell "FIRE!" in a crowded theatre, either.

As for the "many decietful" things that Obama has "already done", please name a few. So far, I haven't seen him caught in a lie or in illegal behavior.

For the person who said that Obama is not the President for 43% of Americans, you are sadly mistaken. He is the President of ALL Americans, regardless of who they voted for. The fact remains that the MAJORITY RULES in this country, a DEMOCRACY. Don't like it? LEAVE!

As for the "mess" that will have to be cleaned up... just take a look at the mess Bush left. Let me remind you that this "great" President couldn't be bothered to show up for a full third of his presidency (35%, actually) to the tune of STEALING $1,117,808 of taxpayer money that he lined his own personal pocket with.

For someone in office for 2920 days and taking 1020 days OFF for VACATION, Bush left a mess that hasn't been seen since the Depression. What a SLACKER!

LIE: WMD's in Iraq
LIE: Kept us "safe" (what about 911? He was warned and ignored it)
LIE: Fiscally Responsible (Deficit/Debt)
LAW: Torture

Need I go on????

For those who think America won't be "the way it was", let's pray and hope not! The last 8 years have been a nightmare. It can ONLY get better without Republicans in control. They screwed things up ROYALLY and barely even have a coherent message anymore that is substantiated with fact.

Anonymous said...

Oh, in the list on Bush's legacy, I forgot to mention the most horrendous of all.

KATRINA!!!!

maureen said...

OK, now we know this is satire....

But the fact that so many were ready to take this as factual, only indicates how on edge many of us are.

Praying for the best, expecting the worst.

Anonymous said...

Wow, a real bush hater, look! Please, I havent heard that tripe enough, please repeat it some more.

This entire blog seems like an attempt to discredit the blogosphere. It seems to be working... :(

Anonymous said...

I'll add, where is original poster? Michelle Chang? Or is it, Change? Why no explanations? You've posted all of about 15 words in repsonse to all these questions. You did not authorize publication? Huh? Did YOU label it satire?

If this is an Obamabot attempt to test the waters, dont worry, if Obama tries ANYTHING along the lines of tyranny, especially a gun grab, you'll find many Americans ready to fight to the death against your Truth Squads and illegal acts.

Anonymous said...

I for one don't believe this.. surely even the most brain dead liberal knows this was Hitler's first move in Nazi Germany. Obama is the object of the US Armed Forces oath.. don't make me laught.

Anonymous said...

This is to be watched, but I take it with a box of salt until I can get more, and dependable, verification. However, as one said, watch out for "executive fishing trips", and this may well be.

However, the most telling thing is the reaction to this. There's not a speck reason to doubt that the obama christ would do this, especially after the other paths of Hitler that he's followed. We all worry, and expect it to be true, which is a tell sign of how dangerous a man this is.

Sieg Heil!

Steve H. said...

I've learned that Free Republic has pulled this info from their site citing it as a hoax. I've tried researching this information and have not been able to corroborate it at all.

Anonymous said...

All credibility in an expressed opinion or argument is lost the second you kindergartners start calling people names.

Didn't your mommy tell you that it's not nice or respectful to do so?

Even if you don't like someone, calling them stupid names really just shows how unintelligent your comment is in the first place.

A thoughtful person and one who knows how to intelligently use the English language effectively doesn't need to use profanity or name calling.

His name is President Barack Hussein Obama. "Mr. President" or "Sir" to you, in person. He is your Commander in Chief and your President.

Get used to it while the rest of us rejoice in the fact that Mr. Bush has left the building.

Anonymous said...

"But the fact that so many were ready to take this as factual, only indicates how on edge many of us are."

I think you meant "delusionally paranoid" instead of "on edge."

Bush Derangement Syndrome at least took a while to get traction, but you right-wingers have ODS down pat in just a couple of weeks! Quick studies!

transgenic452 said...

Anonymous stated earlier, "...surely even the most brain dead liberal knows this was Hitler's first move in Nazi Germany"

Hate to be the one to tell you, but a scary number of Americans today don't even know what the Cuban Missle Crisis was, including the former White House Press Secretary Dana Perino.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW-rfgsNv6w, let alone anything about WWII.

Apparently in a National Geographic survey of 18=24 yr olds, over 10% can't even locate the U.S. on a map of the world.

Another poll shows bout 20% of Americans believe the sun orbits the earth.

Recent stats revealed that about 50% of the professional engineers in the country are foreign-born, and over 40% of the professional computer programmers in the country are also foreign-born. (and of course, more foreign work visas are rubber-stamped year after year by Congress)

Meanwhile, in staggering numbers we watch TV fare like "American Idol", "Dancing with the Stars", "ECW" (televised stage wrestling), "The Simpsons", "Aqua Teen Hungerforce", and such.

According to a BBC poll, about 50% of Americans can name 2 characters in the Simpson family in the TV cartoon show "The Simpsons" while only about 20% can name even ONE of the 5 freedoms listed in the first amendment.

The list of such examples is too depressing to continue.

Orion said...

If I were paranoid I'd say someone on the left started this rumor to stir the right side of the blogosphere into a raging froth. Then they can use it as an example why the public shouldn't trust those knuckle-draggers on the right.

Blackfive researched it and declared it a hoax on their blog.

Anonymous said...

"I think you meant "delusionally paranoid" instead of "on edge." "

I'm sure dimwits like you will be saying that up to the moment they take you away to the "ovens." Nothing wrong with a little healthy paranoia, especially in these times.

Anonymous said...

I think this is a hoax, but it would not have surprised me.

Look carefully at the wording. No classified memo would use the work "flak"

R.U. Wright said...

He is only Commander in Chief if you are in the Armed Services. And as far as being President...there's still that nasty little citizenship detail he keeps ignoring. Until then he'll be PEBO to me (President Elect Barack Obama)

www.saveyourcountry.org

Anonymous said...

R.U. Wright, what exactly is your question about Mr. Obama's Citizenship? Do you deny that Hawaii is a state? I have lived there... they use "American Money", speak English, drive on the right side of the road and EVERYTHING! Please tell me, exactly, what your question is and I will help you to find the answers from reputable sources.

Anonymous at January 30, 2009 9:25 AM said that Obama hasn't proven his citizenship. This is outright FALSE and it would behoove critics to rethink the perpetuation of this falsehood.

Obama was born ON AMERICAN SOIL, in the State of Hawaii. He has produced and the State of Hawaii has authenticated his Birth Certificate. His birth announcement can be found in the Honolulu papers around the date of his birth.

On the other hand, McCain was NOT born on American Soil. He became NaturalIZED when in his teens, but NaturalIZED is not the same as Natural BORN. McCain had to get his buddies in the gov't to create an EXCEPTION for him to run in the first place. Talk about treading on the Constitution!!!!

Before you folks all get into a snit about this, Panama is NOT American Soil. The State Dept. acknowledges that when we RENT land in a foreign country, it is NOT American Soil, even if a military base is set up on it.

The Constitution clearly calls for a NATURAL BORN citizen (born on U.S. Soil) as a requirement for Presidency.

McCain did NOT qualify under the Constitution.

It would be remarkable, at best, for all this conspiracy talk to cease on this issue as there is plainly no argument as to the qualification being met by Obama. The U.S. Supreme Court (Republican appointed for the most part) has even refused to hear this ridiculous argument.

Give it up already!

Anonymous said...

This very website (Jumping In Pools) has an article stating that Mr. Bush punched a "broad" through a plate glass window.

The top of their home page says something akin to "We have no money and lots of time... what else is there to do?"

Every single article has "skit", "satire" or some other equally descriptive tag.

Are you really insane enough to believe this shit?

And you people VOTE?

Anonymous said...

perverts !!!

youtube.com/goldieshome

goldieshouse.piczo.com

transgenic452 said...

Anonymous said, "Look carefully at the wording. No classified memo would use the work(sic) "flak"
January 30, 2009 5:37 PM


Whether this item is true or not...that statement makes no sense at all and would not be a valid reason to argue it's not a legitimate memo.

As far as I know, a "classified" memo could contain any word (including "naughty" ones) in the english language, and perhaps even foreign languages. There isn't a list of "valid" to-use-in-memos words.

There is no reason a "classified" memo could not contain the word "flak". Intra-office government memos written by ordinary people are classified to various degrees every day. "Flak" is a normal, everyday word used in conversation by many people.

Anonymous said...

I am not sure as to the truth or not of this, but lets take a look at Obama's past. He sat for 20 years sucking in the drivel from GD America Wright. And kept company with former crooks of all kinds. So I think it would be something he would try to do if he thought he could get away with it. The American people [most of them] are so dumbed down and stupified it is terrible. Time will tell. As to Obama's true place of birth,just remember,where there is smoke there is fire. I haven't seen anything posted from his web site that looks like a real birth certicate. And I have NEVER in my life seen the questions as to where he was or wasn't born applied to any other president. So what is he hiding?

Anonymous said...

This article should be withdrawn immediately. It DOES appear to be "satire", but it has just enough of a ring of truth to it to make it plausible. After hearing about HR 645, which will build dozens of FEMA camps throughout the US, and a dozens gun control bills awaiting approval in Congress (two things which can be easily verified as true), I have absolutely no sense of humor any longer. Stop making light of a very dire situation, whoever posted this piece of "satire". Find something honest and serious to do, like fighting to restore our Republic.

Anonymous said...

I really enjoyed the hogwash propaganda about how Nobama is qualified to be president as a natural born citizen. He has done everything to avoid proving this status, which is still very much in question. It's not simply a question of being born on US soil. Give your verbose drivel a rest, Obamabot.

Blogman said...

Let me get this straight...

Blog writes post that says it's fake on the bottom--

people think it's real

people get pissed at obama because they think it's real

then someone tells them that it's fake, and was always fake

then they become angrier because...

they didn't catch it?

can someone say satire?

Anonymous said...

Well, Blogman, we know youre at least somewhat literate, but apparently your reading comprehension is very poor? Yeah, try harder to get it straight.

Anonymous said...

re: Blogman

lol

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I really enjoyed the hogwash propaganda about how Nobama is qualified to be president as a natural born citizen. He has done everything to avoid proving this status, which is still very much in question. It's not simply a question of being born on US soil. Give your verbose drivel a rest, Obamabot.

January 30, 2009 6:32 PM

He has produced his birth certificate, which was deemed authentic by the State that issued it. That is not avoiding proving status. That is proving status.

If there is a question other than the U.S. Soil one, what is it?

Constitutionally, he meets all requirements.

If YOU don't think he's educated or experienced enough, that's fine. But otherwise, he meets all qualifications as prescribed by law. McCain does not.

transgenic452 said...

I really think we shouldn't get caught up in the Obama/McCain citizenship issues as they aren't relevant to THIS blog. However, in the spirit of trying clear things up

Re: the discussions about Obama's and McCain's citizenships raised by Anonymous post at January 30, 2009 6:04 PM


Obama Birth Issue
I think the main issue claimed by some people with the Obama birth certificates (BC) provided so far, is that they are allegedly not the "vault" or "long-form" BC, which includes the hospital name, the doctor's name, and sometimes a footprint. (as even my "vault" BC does) The BCs provided by Hawaii to date allegedly don't have the needed pieces of information. It is also alleged that at the time-frame involved, Hawaii was providing "Certificate of Live Birth" (COLB's) to foreign-born people who came to Hawaii and were claimed US citizenship by circumstance of parents, etc. And, it is supposedly impossible to tell that type of BC from an actual "natural born's" Hawaii BC of that vintage. So, the "vault" form of the BC is supposedly needed to prove "natural born" birth.

So, the Obama issue isn't whether a BC or COLB was provided, it's whether the copies provided so far are sufficient to meet stringent and necessary Constitutional criteria for the most powerful position on the planet.

===================

McCain Birth Issue
Now then, as for the issue of McCain's birth....

As I understand it, at the time of his birth, Panama was a United States Territory. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_territory

People born in US territories, I believe historically are considered "natural born". Otherwise, quite a few former presidents served illegally if they came from the western territories of the Continental United States. Not 100% sure, but I believe that is the case.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...I haven't seen anything posted from his web site that looks like a real birth certicate. And I have NEVER in my life seen the questions as to where he was or wasn't born applied to any other president. So what is he hiding?

January 30, 2009 6:21 PM

I had to get a certified copy of my birth certificate. It is shockingly similar in every way to the one widely published for Obama. My BC is "real" as is his, deemed so by the issuing authority.

The PROBLEM is that right wing extremists seem to think that they can keep a "Muslim" (which he is not) out of office by perpetuating this fallacy.

First, Religion is not a factor when qualifying someone to run this country. We have a little thing called "Separation of Church and State" to take care of that.

Second, the only reason others haven't been question on their place of birth is because candidates have always been WHITE MEN.

Any deviation from this "norm" is so scary to the Right that they will rant until their dying breath in order to get their way and another WHITE guy in office.

It's truly pathetic. Right Wing Conspiracy never rang more true than in this instance.

WHY is it so hard to believe that Mr. Obama was born in the U.S. and that his BC is real? What, exactly, about it seems "fake" to you? There is a seal and date stamp on it. It lists his parents, date of birth, place of birth, etc. As does mine.

What, exactly, is not "right" about this widely published and authenticated document?

Anonymous said...

The state of Hawaii has not allowed anyone to see the actual document. That is suspicious at best. And Obama's truth teams posting dubious pictures on the internet claiming to show a birth certificate have long since been called into extreme question. A state governor's word that Obama's certificate is real is not enough. SHOW THE CERTIFICATE, and let it be properly examined and vetted. It is relevant more in this case than in past because there is very good reason to question his citizenship status, given all the moving around he and his parents did in his young age. Sorry man, this wont go away. Just one of many many suspicious things about this Messiah from nowhere.

As to this "blog" being a satire - it has a lot of people fooled, and not because they are "right wing knuckle draggers" or whatever. How exactly was it made clear that this is satire?

In conclusion, I think it's clear what the blogosphere response to this one blog has effectively or at least arguably demonstrated: That internet blogs are not a trustworthy source of information. That will certainly be the spin. How much more disinformation will it take before people dismiss anything on the internet as rumor; before people start seeking "trustworthy" or "reputable" sources; before only the official message on the tube, which we can see with our own eyes, is what is to be believed? Obama IS the USA now - oppose him, oppose the USA. He is your Master, he is your Truth.

Welcome to Pravda USA folks. Welcome to 1938 Germany redux. All you fools who have never lived through or thoroughly studied the insidious character of carefully manipulated propaganda systems, who though the Germans were all just evil and or complicit, are likely in for a tragic awakening.

Anonymous said...

melodramatic, huh?

Soffitrat said...

Google is the last place to find this. That org is an accomplice.

America is on the verge economically. Obama wants the children. Just like Hitler did.

Anonymous said...

first!

Anonymous said...

"I'm sure dimwits like you will be saying that up to the moment they take you away to the "ovens." Nothing wrong with a little healthy paranoia, especially in these times."

Well, given the disrespect for civil liberties, privacy, and silly things like our shared humanity displayed by the last Administration (for which I voted, so perhaps "dimwit" is right), perhaps you're correct.

However, I like to think that maybe the people have corrected that little oversight.

Shouldn't you be jerking off to Sean Hannity or something right now?

Anonymous said...

"Blackfive researched it and declared it a hoax on their blog."

But, OMG, maybe they're in on it!

WHO CAN WE TRUST?

TRUST NO ONE!

(engage full delusional paranoia mode -now!)

Anonymous said...

"How exactly was it made clear that this is satire?"

I am guessing the category tag of "satire" at the bottom might have been part of it.

Anonymous said...

OK... Since you all are too lazy to do it, I did the research myself.

MCCAIN

The Panama Canal Zone was a leased tract of land, not a U.S. Territory. The ownership and sovereignty by Panama for this land was included in the treaty. It's very clear, look it up.

Application: If you rent a house in Detroit to a French citizen, who's laws do they abide by? The U.S. Laws. Who still owns the property and has final word on its use? You do! The French tenant has no sovereignty on that piece of land.

Per the Dept. of State (look it up on their website!):

a. A U.S. registered or documented ship on the high seas or in the exclusive economic zone is not considered to be part of the United States. A child born on such a vessel does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of the place of birth - Lam Mow v. Nagle, 24 F.2d 316, 9th Cir., 1928.

b. A U.S. registered aircraft outside U.S. airspace is not considered to be part of U.S. territory. A child born on such an aircraft outside U.S. airspace does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of the place of birth.

c. Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.

Becoming a "Naturalized Citizen" is done through LEGISLATION, and is completely different from being "Natural Born" (on U.S. Soil). McCain drew his first breath in Panama. He is not Natural Born to the U.S. He was Naturalized at age 17 through legislation, not by birth. This is completely different than being Natural Born.

The term NATURAL BORN in the Constitution, is based upon the British common law of Jus Soli (which is a Legal Latin term for: right of soil or land).

It is NOT based upon Jus Sanguinis (Legal Latin term for: right of blood).

Once again, the 14th Amendment makes it abundantly clear that the definition of NATURAL BORN is Jus Soli (right of soil) and NOT Jus Sanguinis (right of blood). And because this is about the U.S. Presidency, what it says means what it says.

He clearly violates the requirements set forth in the Constitution and therefore had to get his buddies in the Senate to make a special EXCEPTION to the Constitution to allow him Presidency, should he garner enough votes. They trampled on the Constitution to do him a favor. It's pathetic.

OBAMA

The BC has been examined, vetted, and deemed as authentic by many sources. Specifically by the State of Hawaii Health Dept. Director and the Registrar of Vital Statistics. State laws prevent them from releasing the original BC to anyone without "tangible" interest in it. The media doesn't have "tangible" interest. If Mr. Obama were to release it, everyone would still say it's a fraud, so why bother? They affirm that it is, in fact, on file, and that it is authentic. The Certified Copy is also affirmed by the issuing agency.

Factcheck.org has held, examined, and photographed the BC posted by Mr. Obama. You can see their complete analysis of the document as well as corroborating facts here: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Mr. Obama was born on August 4th. The Birth Announcement appeared in the Honolulu Advertiser on August 13th. If he was in Africa, in 1961, how could this be done? It's not like his mom would call Honolulu from Kenya to place a fake announcement in the paper "just in case" Barack wanted to be President one day.

As for the allegations that Hawaii regularly issued fake BC's to foreign nationals, where is a credible citation on this? I can't find a single one.

Finally, for those insisting that McCain, not being born on U.S. Soil, is qualified for Presidency because his parents are citizens, the same should apply to Obama if he was born elsewhere because his mother was a U.S. Citizen.

What's good for the goose...

Anonymous said...

You want to start a 'Civil War'. . . this might just do it. . . No one who currently wears the uniform would do such a thing.

transgenic452 said...

There's still no verification that this original post is true or not, but I think calling what B5 did "research" over-inflates the value of what they did and lessens the meaning commonly attributed to the word "research".

Their website describes what they did.

They apparently talked to a few people and made no citations. They did basically the same thing this original poster appears to have done.

Blackfive used a few of "B5 authors' contacts" and obtained "verbal confirmation from sources that this is completely FALSE."

B5 obtained no official responses or information so I believe that as far as "research" is concerned, their conclusion has effectively the same validity as claimed by this original post.

Anonymous said...

Have any of you morons even looked at this site?

First, the header on their home page says "We have no money and lots of time. What else is there to do?"

Second, there is an article on this website that says Bush "punched a broad through a plate glass window". REALLY? And that didn't make the news, either?

ALL articles on this website have tags such as "Satire", "Skit" or something similar.

Just browse the other entries on this website. They are ALL satire! Every one of them. There isn't one actual news story on the entire site.

And yet, you wonder if this is "real"?

God, you're stupid!

transgenic452 said...

I know comedians that are sometimes the only ones that tell us the truth about our worst politicians, and comic strips that portray their most egregious and depraved behavior.

Paraphrasing someone in an earlier comment, when it comes to politicians, it's better to be wary than ignore the possible.

Anonymous said...

#1 I'm not buying this tripe...sounds like complete horse sh*t to me.

#2 I will personally resign my commission if it IS true...my loyalty is to the Constitution, not the President. I live in a Republic, not a monarchy!

Orion said...

Finally, for those insisting that McCain, not being born on U.S. Soil, is qualified for Presidency because his parents are citizens, the same should apply to Obama if he was born elsewhere because his mother was a U.S. Citizen.

Not quite. Under the law at the time of his birth, to be a "natural born citizen" and born overseas Obama's parents EITHER had to both be US citizens or one of them a US citizen who had resided in the US during the previous 5 years. His father of course was Kenyan and his mother had lived abroad for about a decade before he was born.

Supposedly she flew back to the US just before his birth to make sure he was a US citizen. However, according to relatives in Kenya she couldn't travel in her condition, had him in a British hospital there, and flew back the next day to register him in Hawaii. Under Hawaiian law if a mother shows up at a hospital with a newborn she can have a birth certificate made out there. That's the story, anyway. W/O the original birth certificate we'll never know for certain - the substitute certificate he put up on his website wouldn't have that information.

Both of McCain's parents were US citizens AND his father was deployed military. He was born in the US hospital in the Canal Zone, which by treaty was treated as US territory until we turned it over to Panama in the 1990s. His citizenship was challenged in court last summer and the plaintiff was laughed out of court. That pretty well settles the issue of if he was a "natural born" citizen or not.

Anonymous said...

Holy Crap, have I found myself in parallel universe or what. Where in the world do you people get your facts...oh thats right you are all ditto heads. Whew....you guys are nuts...

Anonymous said...

I am one of the most pro-constitution, conservative Obama skeptics alive but this is just silly. It is poorly written weak attempt to perpetuate a farce.

Orion said...

I will make a prediction that eventually it will come out that this was written by an Obamite to stir up trouble and make the right side of the blogosphere look foolish. It was quickly debunked which ended his/her fun a little early, ah-too-bad.

Anonymous said...

I'm amazed at all the people who are saying Obama has "no respect for our flag" and other such things. Did Bush not destroy our reputation in the world and with his rampant deregulating destroyed this country's financial system? With the way 90% of comments on this false article have been, you're all heralding Bush Jr. as a saint and the best thing to happen to America -ever-.

I also saw a comment on here saying only "God" can save us from this trouble. You just don't want to get off your ass and actually put in the work to make even a slightest difference in anything going on. Why do anything when we can sit back and talk to the sky asking for some one to do all the hard work for us. Pansy.

You claim Obama has committed atrocities. Hes been in office a fucking week. He closed a prison so people could get some fair trials, even the Bush administration said that some of the people held there were held there for little reason other than they were picked up in an area where there might have been terrorists at some time.

This article has no support, no proof, and no sources. This just proves how many people are at the ready to pounce on anything he does wrong, even if he didn't even do it. Well in that case, I heard from some one who didn't give me their name that Obama robbed a bank and likes to make newborns cry by screaming at them. Has he done that? No. Odds are some one who reads this will take it seriously, not read this sentence, and tell other people about it so they will have yet another false reason to hate our new president.

Anonymous said...

IT SAYS SATIRE IN THE TAGS, JEEZ people, there's plenty of real reasons to pounce on obama, wars for oil, bailout, FISA, Patriot act 2, and not really putting effort into the #1 issue voted for on his website (Legalization), but this was just to make you look dumb, and it worked on a LOT of you.

Anonymous said...

The PCZ was NOT American Soil, NOT a U.S. Territory! Read the fucking treaty! PANAMA was in control of the land. We did not have Sovereignty or ownership of the land. We just RENTED it.

That did NOT give any citizen born there right to U.S. Natural Born Citizenship by Jus Soli. Even the Department of State WEBSITE says that American installations in foreign countries do not consititute American Soil for purpose of the 14th Amendment.

Let's go another way on this: If people born in the PCZ were "natural born citizens", then why would Congress pass legislation in 1953 addressing this subject?

Title 8, Section 1403 of the United States Code[5] grants citizenship to those born in the Canal Zone with at least one parent who is a United States citizen.

This differs from the provision in the Fourteenth Amendment which grants citizenship to all born in the United States, regardless of parental nationality.

The whole bit about his mother not being here for X years, blah blah blah, then, doesn't apply. Born on American Soil means you are a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, regardless of the citizenship/length of residence of the parents.

A woman flies across the world not 24 hours after giving birth? Doubtful. Women didn't have "drive through deliveries" like they do now. They would stay in the hospital for several days.

We DO know for sure. The document presented is an authentic, sealed, signed document from the State of Hawaii. As so testified by appropriate authorities, the seal, and the signature on the back of the document.

Why don't you believe the State of Hawaii?

I have a certified copy of my BC similar to Obama's. Are you trying to say that it is not valid for ANYTHING, including getting a passport?

Anonymous said...

Where is the proof that Obama was born in Kenya? Any records at all? Any doctors confirming the birth? How about the Village? How about the hospital? So far, all you folks have to go on is heresay. At least Barack produced something that's official from the U.S. The doubters have produced absolutely nothing but rumours.

Anonymous said...

Obama is natural born. McCain is not. It's obvious. Just drop the discussion.

Anonymous said...

Wow -- it's truly amazing that people will believe anything without any sort of evidence. This is either SATIRE or rumormill fear-mongering to spread the toxins against someone they didn't vote for and now they are whining about it. What I find interesting is that the same set of people failed to see the real symptoms of fascisim in the previous administration.

Ed said...

I am retired military and very interested in this article HOWEVER, it provides NO specifics!

I searched the White House Press Briefings (five from Jan 22-28) and NO mention is ever made of Abu Ghraib by the Press Secretary. No hits on military.com or elsewhere.

Where did this information come from? What is the source. I absolutely don't like this idea, but is it truth or just an internet hoax. We need specifics!

For example:
1. How do you know Sec. Gates is frustrated with this new idea? Source/date?
2. What spokesman for General Cartwright? If you don't know, where did you get this from? Source/date?
3. What "circular" was distributed by Press Secretary Gibbs and to WHOM was it given? The media? When was it distributed? Was it distributed at a White House briefing? Source/date?

Absent the above info, this is an article filled with rumor mongering only and lacks any substance or facts!

Our nation doesn't need innuendo and falsehoods on matters of importance. I think you ought to update this article with legitimate details, or remove it for lack of substance.

Bruce said...

Michele, I agree that this is very irresponsible blogging. It's the blogger equivalent to shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater. Merely appending a "satire" tag doesn't cut it. I think a retraction is in order.

Anonymous said...

How can someone retract a satire piece? Bruce, are you an idiot?

Anonymous said...

the first line says this is a satire you morons. So use a dictionary and youl see a satire means 1. the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc.
Which means its a fake story trying to show you how much influence Obama has and how much he's trying to change America(for better or worse). But the actual story is FAKE, the point is whats real.

morons.

Anonymous said...

I think this is just BS. I do not like OBAMA BUT there is so much he can do and changing the Constitution is not one he can do!

Anonymous said...

Look, the subject of the article is total satire, like something out of the Onion. It's intended to play on the idea that Obama is a Nazi fascist.

Re the McCain citizenship, I'm not going to try to defend it. Don't you think it's odd that one of the most charged and divisive campaigns in our history ended up with the two main candidates having a cloud over the issue of their eligibility for President?

As Obama, his citizenship has NOT been established. The "birth certificate" he provided is a provable forgery. I have seen one site where someone gathered Hawaiian birth certificates printed from 2000 to 2008. Obama's BC was supposedly from July 2007, I believe. Anyhow, the 2007 and 2008 examples' borders match up when magnified. The Obama BC border is distinctly different from both of them. Further, the kerning on the fonts is slightly different, and most damningly, the outlines of the old, correct border can be faintly observed in the correct place under magnification. I.e., it is reasonable to conclude that the BC provided by Obama is fake.

Furthermore, there is the issue of his grandmother, who has been recorded on tape saying she was present at his birth in Kenya, and she flew in from Kenya to the inauguration, but *supposedly* was not invited to any of the inaugural balls. She also *supposedly* affirmed that her son was born in Kenya during the trip. Thus he is not a natural born citizen.

Neither is McCain, really.

Anonymous said...

Americans are getting stupider every day. For a person to believe this joke article for 1 minute means they have no function in their brain and pure ignorant hate for Obama.

Anonymous said...

If this does happen (I know its a spoof)I will move to North Idaho. OOPS I do live in N Idaho... Wake up America..

Anonymous said...

First, I think I would trust statements from the State of Hawaii well before I would trust statements from some unknown blogger "analyzing" a document that has been scanned and viewed on a frickin' computer screen.

Factcheck.org has examined the document IN PERSON and taken very clear photos of it, the seal, etc. I suggest you check THAT site (reputable by all accounts) before you start taking the unknown as some kind of "expert". They have explanations from Hawaiian authorities for your unfounded doubts as well.

As for Kenyan Granny... Could it be POSSIBLE that an aging person with several kids and grandkids PERHAPS might have mistaken her presence at one birth for another? Hell, my own mother has called me by my sister's name for 45 years. It doesn't mean I'm not who I claim to be. And Mom is "all together" in the head.

In fact, I haven't heard a single word on her attendance, but I'll take you at your word that you heard this from reputable sources.

Why on earth would they invite Granny to the inaugural balls? They only spent maybe 20 minutes at each one.

A Kenyan Granny, after a long day of activity is probably not up to attending balls in the *hopes* that Grandson would have even a split second to visit with her.

IF she came for the festivities, I'm sure she celebrated more quietly with whatever family was there and out of the chaos of the galas. It seems perfectly natural to do so, so stop trying to read something into THAT as well.

I sure wouldn't expect MY grandparents to have a day like that and THEN go to some gala event. They would be EXHAUSTED by 5PM and certainly not up to the strain of attending a gala event, given the circumstances (high security, to the minute timing, crowds in unfamiliar places, etc.)

The disclaimer at the top of this article has been added since first publication. Yes, you CAN "retract" satire by boldly and plainly indicating it as such where before it wasn't quite so obvious.

Patriot 001 said...

This sounds familiar like "Hitler"!
But I believe in the wisdom of our forefathers.
"The tree of Liberty needs to be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots, and the Blood of TYRANTS."

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington

“Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views beyond the comprehension of the weak; and that it is doing God’s service when it is violating all his laws.” —John Adams

maybe this will cause a revolution in this country that is NEEDED so badly to get the Tyrants out of office and off of the Judicial benches across this once Great Nation.

Patriot 001 said...

If history repeats itself, and the unexpected always happens, how incapable must Man be of learning from experience. George Bernard Shaw

“If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects
what never was and never will be”. Thomas Jefferson (1822)

“He who would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.” —Thomas Paine

It is our right as citizens to know the law and be well
disposed to use it. (Thomas Jefferson)

"A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate." —Thomas Jefferson

“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the
people fear the government, there is tyranny” Thomas Jefferson.

“Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere” Martin Luther King

"Liberty must at all hazards be supported. We have a right to it, derived from our Maker.
But if we had not, our fathers have earned and bought it for us, at the expense of their
ease, their estates, their pleasure, and their blood." --John Adams

'God grants liberty only to those who love it and are always ready to guard and defend it.'-- Daniel Webster

"There is no crueler tyranny than that which is exercised under cover of law, and with the colors of justice …." United States vs Jannottie, 673 F.2d 578, 614 (ed Cir. 1982)

The humanistic Government that prevails today is not concerned with curtailing or eliminating crime, it rather is concerned with the curtailing and eliminating rights and freedoms of the citizen!

"Tyranny and Usurpation are illegal" they may be resisted with force, and governments founded thereon "may be dissolved in the same manner that people resist robbers and pirates". By John Locke in "Second Treatise of Civil Government" pgs. 170,174,177!

"Freedom can exist only in the society of knowledge. Without learning, men are incapable of knowing their rights." —Benjamin Rush

"Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph." —Thomas Paine

May God be with us true American Patriots in our continued fight for freedom and liberty.

Scott said...

This is 100% a LIE. Use snopes.com to corroborate heaping, steaming piles of crap like this article.

>> http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/oath.asp

Ted said...

The Joint Chiefs of Staff HAVE AN ABSOLUTE CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY to stand behind Guantanamo Military Judge James Pohl UNTIL OBAMA OVERCOMES “RES IPSA LOQUITUR” BY SUPPLYING HIS LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND PROVING HIS ELIGIBILITY TO BE PRESIDENT UNDER ARTICLE 2 OF THE US CONSTITUTION.

Anonymous said...

Article II says NOTHING about "long form birth certificates". Mr. Obama has a CERTIFIED copy of his BC, indicating necessary information to qualify him as President (BIRTHPLACE, AGE) and it has been deemed authentic by proper authorities and by Seal/Signature in the State in which it was issued.

He has an AMERCIAN passport, also. So, what you are saying that not only the State of Hawaii, but the Federal agency that issued his passport are BOTH wrong?

You don't have much faith in the officials the AMERICAN PEOPLE have ELECTED, do you?

Give it up. Mr. Obama is more "Apple Pie" than you will EVER be.

Anonymous said...

The Military Judge has the explicit duty to follow the orders of his Commander in Chief. His CoC is President Obama. President Obama has ordered that the Tribunals cease until the Administration can wade through the absolute MESS of unorganized paperwork on the prisoners. It doesn't mean they won't be tried, but they will be tried once the FACTS are logically assembled and analyzed.

There's one poor kid who has been there since age 14 JUST because he was in an area where "terrorists may have been".

Are you saying he should be tried in that Kangaroo Court without representation? How about if it were YOUR kid, picked up on the streets of Anytown USA for nothing more than walking down the street?

You would be outraged.

Let the process go forth as the Commander in Chief deems fit. The prior CoC was a lawbreaker when it comes to Gitmo, so his orders should not be considered at all. Besides, Bush is just a regular Citizen now, with no power or authority whatsoever.

Anonymous said...

Are you suggesting the Military Judge defy his Commander in Chief?

That wouldn't be good at all.

Obedience to the former Commander in Chief was expected and achieved.

So it should be with the new one.

Anonymous said...

to the person who made this commment... For the person who said that Obama is not the President for 43% of Americans, you are sadly mistaken. He is the President of ALL Americans, regardless of who they voted for. The fact remains that the MAJORITY RULES in this country, a DEMOCRACY. Don't like it? LEAVE!]

Here's the deal - America is NOT a democracy. Just in case you have forgotten... "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States and to the republic for which it stands..."

This country is a constitutional republic NOT a democracy.

The difference being that in a republic, people have inalienable rights that cannot be voted away by a majority of voters.

Unlike a pure democracy, in a constitutional republic, citizens are not governed by the majority of the people, but by the rule of law. Constitutional Republics are a deliberate attempt to diminish the threat of mob-ocracy thereby protecting dissenting individuals and minority groups from the tyranny of the majority by placing checks on the power of the majority of the population.

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner.

A Constitutional Republic: Voting on dinner is expressly forbidden, and the sheep are armed.

Anonymous said...

What a bunch of BULLSHIT! The Pledge says REPUBLIC, not CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. In order to further educate you, here are the definitions of both:

Democracy: NOUN:
pl. de·moc·ra·cies

Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives. CHECK.

A political or social unit that has such a government. CHECK.

The common people, considered as the primary source of political power. CHECK (via VOTE).

Majority rule. CHECK.

Republic: NOUN:

A political order whose head of state is not a monarch and in modern times is usually a president. CHECK.

A nation that has such a political order. CHECK.

A political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them. CHECK.

A nation that has such a political order. CHECK.

They BOTH describe the USA, asshole! For you to add words to the Pledge is to be an ignorant idiot trying to create something where there is nothing.

Anonymous said...

The United States is a republic with democratic elections. It is not a "democracy" per se. I am not about to waste anymore time on an uneducated moron like you, when you could simply google "difference between republic and democracy," and realize that you don't what the hell you are talking about, much less have the capability to educate others.

Brenda said...

Satire- that is in the author's note at the beginning.

Anonymous said...

This blog is nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to stir up Right-Winged ideologues through professed satire. The majority of Americans lack the intelligence or capacity to conduct their own research to differentiate fiction from facts. This type of nonsense is routinely copied and circulated in emails. The forwarding of this kind of crap in emails without a preamble stating that the contents of one's email are submitted as humor or satire and that it is not based on any truths or facts commits a disservice to our nation and, when names are mentioned, to the individuals described in those emails. A frightening concern of mine is that many Americans placed their votes based on false rumors, false innuendos, and out-and-out lies. My view of my fellow citizens is that they are a bunch of lemmings.

You would do well by ensuring that your loved-ones understand that this blog is not based upon any fact but that it is thinly disguised hate submitted as satire. You would do this so that they do not converse with their friends and, thus, sounding illogical.

Anonymous said...

Good luck with your book Michele Chang.

I wouldnt buy it. Pretty sad you have to stoop to this sort of deceptive destructive behavior to sell it.

capt said...

haha...nice post.tomorrow starts today.


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Anonymous said...

haha...nice post.tomorrow starts today.


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Anonymous said...

It says in plain English before the main body of the article:

NOTE: This article is, in fact, a satire piece.

Merriam-Webster defines satire as -1 : a literary work holding up human vices and follies to ridicule or scorn
2 : trenchant wit, irony, or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice or folly

This "story" is not true. It is satire. You won't find any collaborative cites because it is fiction. Back off people! President Obama is the man with a plan and all of you will eat your words when things get better. He will fix this.

Today's vocabulary word is satire. Get with the program.

netwurth said...

Isn't satire usually written with an element of wit or humor or at the very least irony? This appears to be missing everything that usually gives satire it's influence.

see: 'The Onion'

Anonymous said...

If this is true, all present and past service members should be able to refuse "service" do to breach of contract.

Anonymous said...

God I love satire, and the people who overreact to everything they read. Keep up the good work, JiP!

Anonymous said...

Sounds far and away more like something Bush would have had done.

Just more hypocritical conservative whining over a slanderous lie that, had it been launched at them instead, would be crying about phantom "liberal media" by now.

ShariYS said...

Hey there, you bunch of dumb hillbillies, IT'S SATIRE!!!

Norman rorqual said...

This isn't very funny satire.

Good satire sounds completely ridiculous and presents itself as ridiculous in order to make a point. This reads exactly like a conservative news article, as if this were really happening. I guess it's kind of funny if you know it's a fake, and your just doing it so you can make fun of all the Obama haters out there, but come on...this is just sloppy. At least you put the satire label at the BEGINNING of the article now so hopefully people will stop ignoring it.

Anonymous said...

That is exactly why America should have voted for the individual and not the color of his skin. Obama should have not even been a canidate for president.

netwurth said...

"That is exactly why America should have voted for the individual and not the color of his skin. Obama should have not even been a canidate for president."

What the hell does that even mean and how does it apply to this very poor piece of satire? Are you just making a general (poorly informed and ignorant) statement or do you think this is actually true?

Anonymous said...

Sometimes the ONLY reason a piece is labeled 'Satire' is to protect the writer from Copyright infringement prosecution.

Labeling something as satire/parody is one of the few actually still effective means of protecting yourself against industry-lobbied DRM laws that continue to tighten the noose around "Fair Use", as they attempt to eliminate it altogether.

I'm not saying this piece is not satire, but I am saying that simply because something is labeled "satire" does not automatically mean it is 100% void of meaningful content.

It is just as dangerous (and "moronic") to assume a "satire" label automatically means something contains zero facts, as it is to assume it is entirely factual.

Use the "satire" label as a warning, but don't presume that it is proof that everything said is therefore fake.

One often finds grains of truth in works of "satire".

netwurth said...

Use the "satire" label as a warning, but don't presume that it is proof that everything said is therefore fake.

One often finds grains of truth in works of "satire".


A fair point but at the same time satire can't be considered a viable source for information. By it's vary nature, even if it contains a kernel of truth it is most often distorted. In the case of this piece it appears to be based on absolutely no facts.

However, as dismayed as I am that so many readers would believe this stuff I can't fault them for failing to pick up on the satire (yes, I know it says so right at the top but I think that was added later). They didn't pick up on it because it wasn't good satire. As some others have pointed out it's almost like the author is hiding behind the word 'satire' to write whatever untrue stories they can think up.

Jason said...

You know any responsible writer in this day with all the uncertainity, would think about making things abundantly clear. This is a work of Satire and that is fine. I simply reccomend a significantly larger disclaimer. The people who have posted before me, some think the piece is real even after readin.

Jeremy said...

ahhh, dude, this is not satire. satire is funny, this is not funny. this is just a silly, paranoid rant.

Jill said...

If you have to state at the beginning of your article that it's satire, that's a red flag that you might not have pulled it off. The best comedy has come from reading the confused comments!

clarencegirl said...

I see that there are a lot of people out there who don't savvy satire!
Commiserations, Matthew!
Did any of the 157 comments so far pick up on the sly allusion to the historic Third Reich oath?

gonzo411 said...

I never realized just how alive and well satire is in this country. Sure, the original article is funny and clever, but what has my ribs aching from laughing is all the "serious" replies decrying this "outrage." Did y'all write your responses, replete with righteous indignation, with straight faces? I don't see how; if you did, you all belong on SNL.

Matthew Avitabile said...

Anyone like satire? Anyone actually understand that sometimes the response is supposed to be funnier than the article. This article is a Modest Proposal.

Not falling for it said...

Those of you who actually believe this are probably the same nuts that believe "Dr. Orly" and all that other "birther" crap. I have to wonder how much money is being made by those (like Orly) who have convinced you so easily to financially support these ridiculous ideas.
Oh, and FYI, as an Army veteran myself, soldiers take the oath before you even get to basic training.
From Michigan

MommyWoman said...

Did any of you read the disclaimer at the very beginning of this article?? It clearly states that this 'article' is SATIRE! You won't find confirmation of it on Google or anywhere else, it's a JOKE! Instead, Google the word 'satire'!

I'm quite dismayed that anyone took this seriously.

Anonymous said...

I was trying to give this guy the benefit of the doubt, but the military serves all the American people and not some bum who what elected president

Anonymous said...

I was trying to give this guy the benefit of the doubt but the military serves the American people not some bum elected president

Anonymous said...

Pretty clever. The story is false, the author even notes its satire, but its already in email chains and people clicking the link come to this site, drive up traffic and the author makes money on the google ads popping up. There is your stimulus package.

Anonymous said...

For those a little weary on it's sources or proof...please note that on the article states that it's a satire... :P

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Anonymous said...

saydee said:anonymous said on 01/30/09Lie,lie,lie well, here is truth:there was 1 WMD in Iran-Saddam Hussian.Truth:Bush did keep us safe after 911..no more attacks.If Clinton had done what he said he would do,get the terrorist that blew-up the Cole(17 of our boys died)we would never have had a 911.Truth:the Congress got us into this economical mess.consider about all the Senators,and Polosi and all her buddies.They follow her around like dogs in heat.makes me wonder.Law:torture.what does that mean?The last 8 yrs.has been better than the Clinton years!It will only get better when republicans are in control again. at least they have "common sense".Bush didn't cause Katrina,GOD did because of your sin(and mine)you idiot.I see you don't work 2:08 in the afternoon?or are you on your boss's time?Thank goodness the welfare checks are going to be getting a lot higher. you'll need it when you lose that job for stealing from your employer.

netwurth said...

@Anonymous February 24, 2009 3:45 AM

Truth:Bush did keep us safe after 911..no more attacks.If Clinton had done what he said he would do,get the terrorist that blew-up the Cole(17 of our boys died)we would never have had a 911.
This is easily the most tired, worn out, fallacious argument put forward by neo-cons. You want truth? How about you stop claiming that the last administration kept us safe using logical fallacies like post hoc ergo proctor hoc. If you don't know how many additional attacks they supposedly prevented through their unprecedented grabs for expanded executive power and torture tactics then you can’t make this claim. Besides, the first WTC bomb visited on us by these same Islamic terrorists was in 93 when Clinton was president. By your ridiculous logic I could claim that HE kept us safe for the following 7 years and that it was Bush who fell asleep at the wheel and let the second attack happen. I won’t make that kind of claim because I’m not an illogical assclown.

Truth:the Congress got us into this economical mess.consider about all the Senators,and Polosi and all her buddies.They follow her around like dogs in heat.makes me wonder.
I’m certainly no fan of Pelosi and the Congress on both sides of the isle have been lacking in any real action even though a few of them did warn us of this problem. But again, you’re being short sited by blaming this problem on the current congress. They haven’t done anything to prevent it but they certainly didn’t get the ball rolling either. Republicans were in control and there was a Republican president in control and they each spent money recklessly and de-regulated banks allowing them to make risky, stupid decisions. But the fault doesn’t lie with just them. It belongs to Dems and Reps and all of us who tried to live beyond our means and got into bad mortgages.

Law:torture.what does that mean?
Not sure what you’re getting at here. I can only assume from your previous comments that you probably have no problem with the past administrations total disregard for national and international law concerning torture.

The last 8 yrs.has been better than the Clinton years!It will only get better when republicans are in control again. at least they have "common sense"
You’re right, I hate presidents that leave us with a multi-billion dollar surplus. Good thing a republican came in to spend all of it and put us in debt where we belong. Idiot.

Bush didn't cause Katrina,GOD did because of your sin(and mine)you idiot.
I didn’t see the previous comment but I don’t know anyone who blames Bush for the actual hurricane. They blame Bush for the horribly disorganized and pathetic response by the government. Maybe if he named people who were qualified for jobs instead of his friends it wouldn’t have been such an issue. But no, he named Michael Brown, a man with no qualifications for such a job. So yes, the fall out from the hurricane and how that was handled does rest with Bush. I’m not going to respond to your ridiculous comment about some supernatural sky fairy doing it to us.

Anonymous said...

For those of you who keep saying "He isn't my president" you are fools, and unpatriotic fools at that. This America, which I'm sure you would claim to love, is a representative democracy, a Republic. Mr. Obama was elected without question, unlike his predecesor, under our constitutional system. It is amazing how people can talk about how Obama has no respect for the Constitution, and in the same breath, deride the electoral system set forth in that very document.

Whether you like it or not, if you're an American, he IS YOUR PRESIDENT.

CT said...

Good Grief!!! It's SATIRE folks! Read the disclaimer at the top.

SirDent said...

I just recieved the email telling about this horrible thing that Obama is about to do. I am beginning to hate anything that is forwarded to me. It seems no one ever checks anything out anymore before spreading it around as truth.

Whoever authored this piece, Kudos to you. You do have a talent for writing. I am now following your blog.

Anonymous said...

I truly cannot believe how utterly stupid people are. Even without the tags identifying it as satire, it is clearly false. I'm not even angry at the person who wrote this, the people I'm frustrated with are the imbeciles who believe it. It seems that hoards of mentally deficient individuals are roaming the internet, repeating whatever they hear about Obama. After all, if he did what all those chain emails said he did, he must have done the stuff this seedy blog said he did too, right?

James said...

Stupid, Stupid idiots.

There's a large disclaimer at the top.

what kind of mouthbreathers are you?

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Trippinjim said...

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It's frightening how many of the commenters appeared eager to believe this piece of satire....

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Leigh said...

Can't anybody read?

If's SATIRE!

What does 'satire' mean?

I give up.

SW said...

For the Anonymous who carried on about the Constitution and it's meaning and then driveled out that we are a representative democracy....you might want to do a little more research. We are NOT a democracy, as SO many citizens falsely believe. We are a REPUBLIC......have you said the Pledge of Allegiance lately? "...And to the REPUBLIC for which it stands".....sound familiar?

And while I detest this man as much as most of you do, and something like this would not surprise me, it is VERY obvious that it is not a true story. Sadly because the rest of you can't read, that makes those of us who hate him look like morons.

And for those of you who think right wingers are stupid for what we believe, try googling the painting that's about to be revealed of Mr. Obama....the one where his hands are outstretched and he's got a ring of thorns around his head. That is EXACTLY what the left thinks of this man. He is WORSHIPPED. Everyone I know who is a liberal thinks the sun rises and sets on his shoulders. At least those of us who liked W admitted when he did things we didn't agree with. No president is God, and no president makes all the right choices. They are all tainted by Washington in some way.

Anonymous said...

In reply to SW...

You don't know too many liberals, do you?

Anonymous said...

Read the f'n note. Its an f'n satire piece. shit.

Michael B said...

It would have been funny, had some REALLY ignorant people around me not gotten hold of it. Now, the stuff they're sayin' went from, "he's not our savior" and "he's not my president" to "hang him!" and "impeach him!”. My red-state friends tend not to look at details. Such as SATIRE.
If a democratically elected person, by popular and electoral vote, swears on the Lincoln Bible that he will do what he can to protect and preserve the United States of America so help him God, I tend to give a listening ear. I didn't particularly like Bush, but I still did what the president asked. I didn't go ape-sh** when Bush was elected by non-popular vote and some hide-n-seek votes in Florida.
Just because someone is liberal or has democratic tendencies doesn't mean they're a socialist. The Democratic Party and the American Socialist Party have completely conflicting ideas! Many presidents were branded "socialists", such as FDR and JFK, but in the end, they're just doing their job. How well they do it is the question.
The corporate bailout plan is WAY different from government ownership of companies. The money spent is used to keep companies going, not to be bought out by "Government Motors" (FYI, about 17% of share holding in GM goes directly to the Canadian government. At least we're going to give our shares back).
Look at where liberalism brought us. An even mix of liberalism and conservatism serve this great land, and brought us things such as freedom of slaves, the sexual revolution, or more importantly, the United States of America (freedom was a very liberal thing back then.)
Obama swore on the Lincoln Bible. Not the Koran, not a book of law, the same Bible used to inaugurate President Abraham Lincoln. The oath included the phrase "so help me God". The mistake in the oath was not Obama's fault, but Chief Justice John Roberts, later commenting, " I'm sorry. My bad." This is not a conspiracy. Plenty of past presidents fudged up their lines, including Grover Cleveland and Calvin Coolidge. John Adams and Thomas Jefferson, both Freemasons and defiantly Protestant, swore on books of law.
Even if the president is of another religion (which he isn't, it's been proven that he's a Baptist, and goes to the church across the street from the White House", it wouldn't matter. There are 17 Jewish members of Congress, 8 of other religions, and one homosexual. The Constitution itself states the right to practice the religion of your choosing. Even though Obama is not Muslim, that doesn't stop a Muslim president from doing a good job. It's not Americans vs. Muslims here. It's Americans vs. extremist Islam, such as Hezbollah or the Taliban. Just because someone dips their head on a rug or wears a turban does not mean they have an AK-47 under their robes! Just ask the 4,500 serving in our nation's military...
Anyway back to the topic. The rumor has been around since the Johnson administration (you know, Vietnam...). I'm pretty sure even more people were frustrated when Lincoln suspended habeas corpus during the civil war. Obviously, Democrats this time around get an extremely false and ridiculous pasting of Nazis on them, so it's easier to stick it to Obama. One of the president's roles is Commander-in-Chief. That means he has oversight to send soldiers, airmen, sailors, and marines to any trouble-spot in the world, before reporting to Congress of taking such action. If you swear allegiance to the United States

***CONTINUED ON LOWER COMMENT***

Michael B said...

***CONTINUED FROM UPPER COMMENT***


and her military, there are superior officers that come along with it. At the top is the President. Therefore, adding "Obama" anywhere in the oath is ridiculous and a waste of ink. You do swear allegiance to the President in the oath, one way or another.
With Hitler, he was Nazi Germany. Without Hitler, the Nazi party wouldn't have been very successful. So if you swore allegiance to Hitler, you mean Hitler and no one else, not even other commanders. German army leadership reported directly to Hitler. Not so much as a button could be loose if Hitler didn't give the go ahead. The Luftwaffe and the German Army did not speak to each other, but Hitler. In the American military oath, you swear to the nation and then the president. Our Commanders-in-Chief tend to be lawyers or politicians with little to no military experience. The constitution requires the Commander-in-Chief NOT to be in the military at the time of being in office. Dwight D. Eisenhower had to resign from being a General of the Army with five stars in order to run for President in 52'. Therefore, military commanders are allowed to create their own military standards, and almost decide to engage or not. "Obama" in the oath wouldn't matter, because the President only decides where to go, and how to get out. Generals decide how, when, why, and if they need coordination from other branches of the military.
As for the "mess" he put us through, it's been a lot cleaner than Bush. I'd like to site the anonymous entry from January 30th that horrible things before the Obama administration (torture, six years of war, deceit, WMD's, stop-loss, government contractors) are being addressed within the infancy of his presidency. It took seven years, from the Act of 1957 to the Act of1964, for Civil Rights to be addressed. It took decades for countries to sit at a table in Geneva, Switz. and hammer out a convention form. Nine years rolled by until Nixon pulled troops out of Vietnam. But now, troops can go home or be relocated to the real, Afghan front, we can sign anti-nuclear weapons treaties like adults, and victims of abuse can be treated. With human beings, being generous often times yields more reward than forcing or demanding.
I tend not to shed light on the Republican Party in my area too much, because I hear no plans from their side, only whining and complaints. In the future, I want to see Libertarians (small government, fiscally conservative, socially tolerant) vs. Democrats. Then I actually will have a hard time choosing. Maybe, in some other town, Republicans make more of an impression on their platform. But in the richer communities of Houston, when you ask someone about politics, they YELL how "Obama is a terrorist" or "Obama is the Anti-Christ" or better yet, "Load up the guns, boys! Obama's takin' 'em away!"(Obama is more or less neutral on gun control). I'd like to move to Austin.
As for myself, I may not think details of his plans aren't the greatest, but they sure are a step up. I'm willing to go for Change. The air in Houston smells like crap and it only gets hotter and hotter. Companies, such as health care and banking agencies rip me off, steal my money, and leave me with rotting teeth (well, not the credit card companies in that case). I cannot pay for college, not because of money squandering, but I make much too less. Gas prices are going up, and value per dollar is going down. We can't be doing what we always do. It's not working. We need to change our habits.
My name is Michael, and I'm a Texan Democrat, card-carrying. It's been fun, y'all!

Anonymous said...

This is Great!!!

This is better than anything the Onion could have done!!

For all you neo-cons out there - Get Over IT!! You LOST!

lisa reeder said...

Lisa from Ky, Our country has contintued to be a strong country because of history, learning from good God fearing leaders and not changing what isn't broken. Change is good, only if those changing it is good

Anonymous said...

Isn't it amazing that people can't read or comprehende what they have read. Hysteria...SATIRE IDIOTS

DIXI (I Have Spoken) said...

Hi... I was directed to you by Keith Olbermann. Oh lord, this story is even better than I thought!! Even though you have a freakin' DISCLAIMER right at the top of the article stating that it's a satire, all these intellectually challenged folks are going crazy with the "Hitler--blah blah--Socialist--blah blah--Muslim--blah blah blah" commentaries. Wow, talk about being merely a sheep in the herd. Let's use our brains, people! Really hilarious!! Thanks : )

Term Paper said...

Over 200 years the oath is the the Constitution and not to the president. He is really overstepping his bounds.almor

Max said...

hey this is all fake..

SingerGuy said...

The nephew of a friend of mine supposedly just took his oath of enlistment yesterday and this was exactly the way the oath was worded. His aunt videotaped the enlistment ceremony and is going to post it on YouTube. I'll post a URL when it is available. If true we just went from satire to absolute truth and all those who got mad at the satire can feel free to get mad in real life now.

Anonymous said...

Wow. So many people missed the lines at the top that says this is satire. (That means it is made up and meant as a joke.)

A lot of people look foolish.

Anonymous said...

I hope most of these comments are satire. How come we can't even joke anymore?