Obama Thesis Raises Doubts
Brian Lancaster
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President Barack Obama's college record has officially been under strict secrecy since his run for the White House began in 2007. This record includes two years at Occidental College in Los Angeles, two years at Columbia University, and finally at Harvard Law School.
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During his time at these colleges, Obama gained notoriety for being an especially bright and hardworking student. At Harvard, he was later elected as the editor of the Harvard Law Review, which many observers see as the beginning of his political career.
However, many things regarding the future President's time at these colleges have remained private. Under order of the Obama campaign, all information not directly allowed published by Obama himself, is not to be disclosed to any media. These included grades, attendance records, rewards received, and papers submitted.
With all of the secrecy regarding the President's academic record, famed Time reporter Joe Klein looked into the records for an upcoming special edition about the President. Klein included several key points in the piece, including his grades and stellar letters of recommendation. However, what has leaked along with this information was the subject of a thesis written by the young Obama while still an undergraduate at Columbia.
A political science major, Obama was seen as a top student, according to his classmates. Professors even asked the young student to lecture several times. Obama was required to write a 'senior seminar' paper in order to graduate from Columbia. The subject of this paper, which totaled 44 pages, was American government. Entitled Aristocracy Reborn, this paper chronicled the long struggle of the working class against, as Obama put it, "plutocratic thugs with one hand on the money and the other on the government."
In the paper, in which only the first ten pages were given to the general media, Obama decries the plight of the poor: "I see poverty in every place I walk. In Los Angeles and New York, the poor reach to me with bleary eyes and all I can do is sigh."
In part, the future President blames this on the current economic system: "There are many who will defend the 'free market.' But who will defend the single mother of four working three jobs. When a system is allowed to be free at the expense of its citizens, then it is tyranny."
However, the President also singled out the American Constitution: "... the Constitution allows for many things, but what it does not allow is the most revealing. The so-called Founders did not allow for economic freedom. While political freedom is supposedly a cornerstone of the document, the distribution of wealth is not even mentioned. While many believed that the new Constitution gave them liberty, it instead fitted them with the shackles of hypocrisy."
It is yet unknown if more of this thesis will be released. It was also noted that the President received an A- for the paper, which later led to his graduation.
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85 comments:
I have traditionally avoided conspiracy theories, but I am hard pressed to understand how the Manchild got elected, given the ample evidence littering his path that he was philosophically unsuitable to be a national leader. In other words, when an F-5 tornado goes along and the damage it has done goes unreported as it approaches your town, it will be difficult to convince people that a large number of the "watchers on the wall" didn't have it in for the town.
Ivy League universities are not good at getting students jobs, only grants to be commie nutty organizers. No business ever trusts such left wing graduates who don't believe in capitalism and become crooks because they are taught the only way business makes money is crooked so they seek to avenge their unemployability through their own crookedness. The universities consider real jobs and competition beneath them, so they want their little sissies to live off grants, even in the hard sciences or business. How many of their engineering professors have Professional Engineering certification? Almost none! They love foreign students because they slave up and don't expect professors to actually work for the tuition, like American students do. No middle class parent should consider sending their kids there, because these schools will destroy your entire family. The only schools that understand middle-class values are for-profits. Middle class parents foolish enought o buy into the Ivy League dream die way too young.
Maybe I missed it, but ss there a link so that we can read all the text released from this college thesis you discuss?
America is a Business. ANd the jest of it all, Obama does not know how to run this as a prospering business. This idea of "distribution of wealth" is a joke. Here's a man that barely donated $2000 to charities before election. He would be fired and replaced by any business with his track record. He should be removed from office on the sheer "destrution of economy/jobs" in America.
Who is your source?
Where can the first 10 pages of the document you are referring to? Can you post them?
Where are the 10 pages?
Joe Klein wrote about the thesis on the Time blog last month.
I have done a little search of Joe Klein's Time Blog (Swampland) and can't find this. do you have a direct link to it?
I tried to any reference to something similar on the Time Blog too, and didn't find anything. I'll go back over the last two months again. But this blog article is written in August. Where did B. Lancaster hear of it? What is his source?
There is nothing on the Swampland Blog at all. I doubt Klein would publicize anything of the sort, anywhere: he is very protective of Mr. O.
Tom G, did you link your Blogger ID to CNN on purpose? Is this some kind of pointed excercise about the unsourced, bogus quotes used against Rush Limbaugh?
I don't approve if so. Very lame.
"to understand how the Manchild got elected"
Remember, one half are below average. Ten percent are datk complected as is Obama. Enuff sed?
ooops, DARK complected
It's not hard to understand why Obama and the media protected his college years.
Disgusting Moby?
Anonymous post at October 23, 2009 1:11 PM
Go ahead and put your real name to that, Mr.
Ledeen is holding in moderation all the comments asking for sourcing. So to me it looks like this is a "gotcha" based on the abuse of unsourced Limbaugh quotes.
Limbaugh, according to poster Abby Adams at Hot Air, is even talking about the "thesis" on air.
Anon-1:43 So, you know what I think of this excercise. FWIW, however, many papers will be numbered pp/ " 1 of 44" "10 of 44" , etc.
You need to reference your sources. Can you please reference your source for this document. I would love to see it.
Jack Reylan - "Ivy League universities are not good at getting students job."
Jack, you must be some sort of ignorant white trash highschool dropout to believe this.
Or just a retard.
Er...
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=5B4E15F8-18FE-70B2-A8818586DFA6E1BA
"By coincidence, Krauthammer shares that formative moment with the president he criticizes. As a student at Columbia University, Obama wrote his senior thesis on nuclear disarmament. "
Obama is all the proof we need that there must be some sort of restrictions on voting. Maybe just a loyalty oath and test of one's understanding of the Constitution
Journalist Klein says that reports about his having seen a paper by Student Obama are complete fabrications. Has JumpingInPools been punked or did you make this story up by your own self?
Sounds like a fraud to me. I'd love it to be true but....maybe it was "leaked" by Bill Ayers, O's ghost. That stuff about the poor people reach to me with bleary eyes and all I can do is sigh is pure Ayers dreck.
Oh look! The stupid, scandal-seeking dumb-as-rocks conservatives believed a HOAX!
You people should all be lining shallow graves.
DINO
Oh, yeah, Mr. Mean-as-Snakes Anonymous? Just where IS Obama's thesis, and why is it such a State Secret?
For those of you who ain't scared by this story, real or not, there ain't no affirmative action in the constitution either, but look at the mess we are in today because of it.
Who is going to discredit the typeface that was used to write up that 'leaked' thesis, with the same speed and vigor that was used to discredit the true information that was sent out to discredit Dan Rather?
And how do you fire a gullible maroon who works in their pajamas, anyway?
Admit it, you got suckered into it based on your own belief. And you pulled in Rush as well.
All you disgusting subhumans have is scandal. You miss the Clinton years when you could wallow in them endlessly.
I hope your kids grow up hating you for what your conservatives did to their futures.
DINO
WE WHITE NEED TO STICK TOGETHER (FACE IT THATS WHY WERE HERE). THE FUTURE IS DARK COMPLECTED AND SOON WELL BE PUSHED OUT AND HOMELESS. JESUS BE WITH US.
Whether or not Obama wrote this, he clearly said similar things in a 2001 interview on WBEZ radio in Chicago. You can hear the audio on youtube. Search Obama, WBEZ, redistribution of wealth.
This is a hoax. A fake. Not real. Bogus. Now, perhaps the owner of this blog didn't know this. Perhaps he did. Ultimately, however, this story is discredited.
After Obama said somewhat similar things in a 2001 interview on WBEZ in Chicago, "fair or not", I could 'hear' him saying this, a la Maureen Dowd.
Ha ha!
So in other words, regardless of whether he *actually* wrote it, from your point of view he *did* write it. Fascinating.
All I can say, here it is for you boneheads:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/23/fake-obama-thesis-story-g_n_332255.html
bunch of fucking idiots.
Nonsense
Posted by Joe Klein
A report is circulating among the wingnuts that I had a peek at Barack Obama's senior thesis. It is completely false. I've never seen Obama's thesis. I have no idea where this report comes from--but I can assure you that it's complete nonsense.
Update: Michael Ledeen now has apologized to me on his blog, claiming that he, Limbaugh and others were punked by a satire. I appreciate the apology...but I wonder about what the willingness to take this cheesy crap as gospel says about Ledeen's--and Boss Rush's--sensibility. Actually, on second thought, I don't wonder all that much.
http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/10/23/nonsense-2/
Hoo boy! This thread was just the good laugh I needed before bed. I love the comments that say, "Well, maybe this is totally bogus, but [INSERT SOME REFERENCE TO OBAMA THAT PROVES HE'S A COMMUNIST/FACIST/EXTRATERRESTRIAL]."
Oh my. My sides are aching. Thanks, Rush! Thanks, commenters!
This is almost as bad as LGF.
Obama is a dirty socialist; a shame he won't release his actual thesis. The curiosity on both sides of the fence is growing...exactly what did he write? Will anybody ever know for sure?
Oh, and Charles Johnson banned whoever writes this blog. Don't feel bad, he'll likely ban his own crazy self one day.
Read this...it'll make you feel better.
Oh for the love of pete! Okay, so at last count here's what we have:
Barack Obama is: a socialist, a fascist, a Marxist, a black nationalist, a crypto-Muslim, a black Christian liberation theology devotee and the anti-Christ...oh and a nomad with some 150 aliases and addresses. Did I leave anything out? Want to throw in that he's Emperor Palpatine just to round out the set?
Sweet and sour Jesus! Do you lot claiming that Obama is a socialist even know what socialism IS? I mean, really--what it *actually* is? Do you know what fascism is? Do you know what Marxism is? Of COURSE you don't and you don't care to know. It's enough to just throw the accusation out there.
"But who will defend the single mother of four working three jobs."
I will! I'm sorry she wasn't smart enough to keep her legs together or $%#& a man with a job of his own!
Epic Win!
Nice job Mr. Lancaster. I lol'd at the comments.
Welcome to the modern Republican party: dirt stupid, and proud of it. Don't be messin' are minds up wif facts, we-un's done made are minds up, and now we-un's will grasp pathetically at the slightest hint of a strawr. Congratulations; you have marginalized yourself. It's amazing what years of always being wrong can slowly do to a political party. Down to 20% and counting..19...18...17...
Obviously, you need larger "Satire" tags.
OK, hopefully you do...
@Suzanne:
It doesn't exist. There isn't one. The president earned a Bachelor's degree from Columbia, not a Master's. Some colleges require a senior theses for a Bachelor's - at the time, Columbia did not.
Enuf? Want more? As it happens, Mr. Obama did write a thesis-length paper while at Columbia. But it was about Soviet nuclear disarmament.
As a fan of Rush and Ledeen, I'm disappointed that they'd run with this so uncritically. They both should have either verified this with Klein, or at least secured other independent knowledge that it was indeed true. But, on the other side, we all know how equally eagerly and uncritically vast swaths of the "real news" networks ran with the manufactured Limbaugh quotes.
But ...... they were uncharacteristic of Limbaugh. Limbaugh may say un-PC things about race, but they're largely aimed at those who use race as cover for advancing liberalism, not in a context that he personally has anything against someone just for having a different color of skin. I believe he was married by Clarence Thomas, or is that made up too?
On the other side of the coin, obviously the reason that this rang true for Rush and Ledeen was because they'd essentially heard it before, right from the horse's mouth:
"If you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movement and its litigation strategy in the court, I think where it succeeded was to invest formal rights in previously dispossessed people, so that now I would have the right to vote. I would now be able to sit at the lunch counter and order and as long as I could pay for it I’d be OK.
But, the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and of more basic issues such as political and economic justice in society. To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn't that radical. It didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution, at least as it's been interpreted, and the Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. Says what the states can't do to you. Says what the federal government can't do to you, but doesn't say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf.
And that hasn't shifted and one of the, I think, tragedies of the civil rights movement was because the civil rights movement became so court-focused I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalition of powers through which you bring about redistributive change. In some ways we still suffer from that." -- Barack Obama as State Senator
"At least as it's interpreted"?
Obama appears to be questioning the basic, correct and rather obvious interpretation of the constitution as being primarily a document spelling out the limitations, as opposed to the redistributive powers, of the Federal government.
Obama may not have written this "thesis", but he well could have, and it would come as no real surprise had he actually written such a thing.
@Goofus
OK. Cough it up!
BTW, Fox News sounds exactly like CCTV (Chinese Central TV), full of shit and propaganda.
Gary above said:
"But ...... they were uncharacteristic of Limbaugh. Limbaugh may say un-PC things about race, but they're largely aimed at those who use race as cover for advancing liberalism, not in a context that he personally has anything against someone just for having a different color of skin."
Really? You only heard what you believed what were said.
All of you holes were punk'd! Way to go whites! Caulk one for the black boys!! Punk asses and bitches!
I wish people critical of Obama (or Bush, for that matter, with the whole faked National Guard records) would talk substance rather than try to justify their use of false documents as being "true in spirit." And what's so bad about a thesis that talks about the needs of poor people? The country's constitution is a great document that has helped to protect many of our freedoms, but it's not holy scripture--it has its shortcomings as well. That's why there's something called amendments.
All you right wing dicks: Eat shit and die. Obama is 100 times the President that foolish scum George ever could be.
ok you all must know that this was a joke, none of Obama's paper was released and I believe that if you wish to truly read his thesis then you can go to the columbia library to read the actual one.
Gary, Obama (if did come from Obama) was pointing out that the civil rights movement failed to get the Supreme Court to address the three issues listed. Interpreting the Constitution is the primary job of the Supreme Court. The intent of the founding fathers is continually addressed and readdressed by the Court. A quote like the following sounds like it could come from any Constitutional Law professor: "At least as it's interpreted"? The Court would not need much of a job if the original intent was settled and no interpretation is needed. Go to law school and you'll begin to understand what I mean.
Its a hoax. My god you people are gullible.
Perhaps you would be interested in this project I have to build a bridge across the Atlantic...
*snicker, snicker* So. Freakin'. Funny. Bite that, Rush.
This just goes to show how many idiots there are who read something on the Internet and swear to God its true. It is one thing for the average Joe to believe it, but Rush should be fact checking his reports before he passes it on to the public. Shame on him and his creappy journalism ethics. At least 50% of the people who believed this crap won't ever learn that it was a hoax and will repeat it as gospel to all their friends. Ridiculous.
Actually you CAN'T read Obama's actual thesis from college or ANYthing else from college for that matter. He SEALED all those records. He also SEALED his birth certificate records!
Geeee. I wonder why.
Can we get a disclaimer??? People still believe this.
The fact that Rush Limbaugh picked up on this and ran with it on the air is even better than Dan Rather and the Bush military memo. Rush didn't even know this was a satire. He should resign in disgrace but unfortunately knows no shame and will continue his campaign of deception.
Beautiful hoax. ha ha ha!
Love how you made Rush L. fall for it.
Buzz: Rush was punked by "Obama Thesis" Hoax
SATIRE!! one of the tags is SATIRE!!! are people really that dumb?
I love how the stupid liberals are aghast that people would be spreading this 'untrue' hoax, spreading lies and laughing at people who fell for it.
What's the most famous liberal line, repeated ad nauseum, seen on bumper-stickers, t-shirts, protest signs, etc.?
Bush lied, people died.
Of course, there's no proof Bush lied, but it doesn't stop the lunatic liberals.
Now look at the stupid liberals; 'you were punked', 'people will believe it', blah, blah, blah.
TOO FUNNY!
Now, every time I see their 'Bush lied, people died' line, I'll respond with Obama's 'thesis'.
oh yes because the answer to untruth is MORE untruth! Sweet Jesus! You conservatives claim to be the paragons of morality because you believe in Jesus and yet, you have no interest in truth? Look, the thesis does NOT exist. What's more, this idea that Obama claimed (correctly) that the Constitution contains 'negative' rights while true is *entirely* misunderstood by the conservatives (who appear to revere the Constitution without having read it).
Positive right: You have the right to do this
Negative right: Congress shall make no law prohibiting or abridiging this right.
The Constitution does not claim "you have the right to do X". It DOES state "Congress shall make no law..." or "The right to X shall not be abridged". THAT is what a negative right means.
You weren't fooled, you're stupid. Look at the tags.
It's filed under "satire".
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Rush should have done some fact-checking Twitter -- that's the only place on the internet that has truly reliable gossip
Well, well... (sputter) It felt real, and that's all that matters. And I don't wanna talk about this anymore! Squeeeeaaaalll.
Hey Brian,
Love ya, Love ya show!
Keep up the good work.
god some of you people are such retarded wastes of life. stick to suckling on Glenn Beck's grundle.
If your goal was to hoodwink some biggies, you did it!
What's the next big hoax you've dreamed up? Will anyone be any more wary now?
I doubt it.
If your goal was to hoax some biggies, you did it this time!
What hoaxes have got dreamed up next?
Do you think there's any chance anyone will be more wary now? I doubt it. You can always say, "As heard on Rush Limbaugh's show . . ." and who could contest the accuracy of that?
OK, so here is the lowdown. My father was a professor at Columbia. Me and 6 of my brothers and sisters went to Columbia. I graduated from Columbia almost exactly at the same time as Obama, though I had no knowledge of him at the time. There is no senior thesis paper required for graduation from Columbia College. College papers are not saved and put in to the Columbia library, so don't waste your time looking for Obama's (or mine). Only PHD thesis are placed in the library.
As to the comment about companies not hiring graduates of Ivy League schools; Jack Reylan must not have been closer to an Ivy League school than I have been to a Palin rally. Big corporations from all over the world compete to get the top graduates from Ivy League schools. Many of the top people in Wall Street, and banks and manufacturing companies and consulting firms and law firms, etc. etc. come from Ivy League schools. There is no surer way of insuring a future in corporate America than an Ivy League dgree.
Oh, and did all of you posters realize that this entire articl was bogus. Obama never wrote the paper, nobody every read it (since it doesn't exist), nobody ever posted the first 10 pages of it (since it doesn't exist), there is no way to get Obama to release the papers he did write because Columbia never has saved undergraduate papers (I suppose it is possible that Obama saved the papers himself, but if he is like most college students I would strongly doubt that he saved undergrad papers).
This article says that Obama's college records are 'secret' and can only be reported by him. It then goes on to quote from those same 'protected','secret papers by Obama. So how could the quotes be considered accurate unless they come directly from the Presidents' writing's since the records were 'sealed'?
This post is even tagged "satire" people...
Conservatives are such pathetic LOSERS!
ha-ha, libruhl mo-rons. doan chew no nuthin bout nuthin?! yews duh ones PUNKED!
The MSM has been had, again.
This time around it wasn't Judy Miller from the NYT acting the 'independent' (supposedly) liberal MSM (NYT) news resource chosen to 'float' the fake news, it was a 'humor blog' (cheaper and less connectivity to the REAL source, the neo-cons/Mike Leeden.
(Mike Leeden wrote [or, caused to be written] the yellow cake 'intel' that the SISMI (Italian spooks like our CIA) 'discovered'. This guy is/never has been an 'innocent'. Leeden has probably had a hand in EVERY high profile bit of skullduggery from Iran Contra to starting the Iraq war.
If Leeden is involved, Cheney, Libby, the RESTof the neo-cons aren't far behind, probably being financed with some of the billions robbed from the initial cash shipped in on pallets to Iraqi in the first year, 13 [of the first 20] BILLION + of it STILL unaccounted for.
Nope, if Leeden is involved (Leeden has since admitted to his involvement and pseudo 'apologized' for said involvement) you can be sure this was orchestrated for 'consumption'.
Mission Accomplished!
For your reading pleasure, Leeden's wiki curriculum vitae
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ledeen
there ARE evil people out there, and, Leeden 'IS'. look for more of this Judith Miller/NYT style 'news' planting from this crowd.
You people are so depressingly stupid I want to cry. Reading these comments is like listening to my mentally retarded neighbor yell things all night.
Kudos to JiP for the satire / hoax.
I'm not surprised that Limbaugh fell for this; he also fell for Stein's hoax Expelled, and he pandered to the Vince Foster assassination rumours back in 1993. Keep all that in mind next time he endorses something. (Ledeen, on the other hand, I'd had higher expectations of.)
Anyway, every now and again people need a humility lesson.
Well, if it isn't true that he wrote against the constitution and for nuclear disarmament, then why is it his agenda suggests both? Even Sarkozy of France is saying Obama has a childish notion of nuclear disarmament at a time in our history when the US needs all the protection it can muster. Search it for yourself!
I wasn't sure if you had seen that you made Politifacs pants on fire list. Here is the link: http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/oct/26/blog-posting/obamas-columbia-thesis-all-fiction-dreamed-blogger/
And it wasn't even an attempt to punk them, just a clearly labeled humor piece. They take all the fun out of it.
Still funny as hell.. even though we at jumpinginpools wrote this a fairly long time ago. The article was written by one Matthew Avitable, a close friend of mine, and founder of Jumping In Pools. This is what happens when people take information off of a blog that is known to publish humorous and satire articles, and believe them to be true. Sorry there Rush-o, you are just to dumb to realize the difference.
Thanks for share News about 'Obama College Thesis: 'Constitution is Inherently Flawed',..
I have traditionally avoided conspiracy theories, but I am hard pressed to understand how the Manchild got elected, given the ample evidence littering his path that he was philosophically unsuitable to be a national leader. In other words, when an F-5 tornado goes along and the damage it has done goes unreported as it approaches your town, it will be difficult to convince people that a large number of the "watchers on the wall" didn't have it in for the town.
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